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Antonio's avatar

Another enjoyable read. I was already a fan of bonobos and now even more so. I imagine Planet of the Bonobos wouldn't make for a blockbuster movie.

You ask: "people who run schools—who should be most concerned about developing the humanity of our children—are taking play time away from children to ever greater degrees. And for what? For more time to study for tests that have little to do with real life. Why do we let them do that? What is wrong with us?"

I imagine it has something to do with the benefits of short term wins versus that of long term wins. Educators, and the politicians and bureaucrats who often pull their strings, benefit from being able to point to increased test scores, which is perhaps the most important youth related measure to all three groups when it comes to their (not the kids') future prospects. And sadly, we the people (voters, parents) fall for it time and again. They (we the people) want to see quick improvement now; so they choose to focus on largely meaningless test scores, which can be gamed in the short run; instead of the humanity of children, which is most important but neither quick nor easily measured.

You write: "Even today, despite our relative within-group peacefulness compared to other primates, domestic violence is the leading cause of murder of women and young children everywhere. Women, especially, would do well to choose a mate who manifests playfulness, humility, willingness to cooperate."

Unfortunately, with our hyper-competitive schooling and economic systems, along with what seems to be a growing appeal among certain segments of young men for particularly toxic misogynistic identities (e.g., MRA, incels), I worry that the number of those who manifest playfulness, humility, and willingness to cooperate may be dwindling.

Side note, I've been reading The Dawn of Everything by Graeber and Wengrow and if I remember correctly they argued that humans didn't domesticate wolves into dogs as much as the wolves domesticated themselves into dogs (or domesticated us). Of course, as you suggest, it seemed to be a process that consisted of willing participants on both sides. So perhaps the dogs example is somewhere in between human-induced domestication and self-domestication.

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Gordon R. Durand's avatar

In How to Tame a Fox by Lee Alan Dugatkin and Lyudmila Trut, they say that a sign that they were beginning to succed in breeding tame foxes was when the foxes began to wag their tails and to bark, which wild foxes don't -- to begin to communicate, in other words, with their human companions.

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