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Dan Fisher's avatar

Dear Peter,

Thanks for yet another though-provoking piece. I subscribe to your newsletters because I find your pieces to be inspiring, although I occasionaly disagree with you completely. Today's piece was an example of an issue that I think you have profoundly mis-read. As an elementary school principal for the past 15 years (and a teacher before that) and as a parent of two teenagers, I would like to highlight that you really cannot compare the time that you (a highly educated and self-regulating adult) might spend googling plants in the wild to how children today use (or are used) by technology. In every way that I can measure it (attention span, inability to tolerate difference, body image, physical frailty, etc.) smartphones have been detrimental to our children. For every five minutes my own children spend practicing French on DuoLingo, they spend an hour or more gorging themselves on inane videos of people "reacting" to each other, screaming over top of video game footage, or just generally behaving badly. Additionally, the algorythms of many search engines are so sophisticated that once on a phone, children never have a chance to encounter anything that might challenge their thinking or enrich them as humans. The use of phones as anxiety shields is all around me, all day, as well: every teen in my life hides behind their phone in elevators, on buses, and at social gatherings. I've watched my son's hockey team at a celebratory end-of-season banquet, sitting in complete silence, each on a device, for instance. As a school administrator I can report that my teachers used to hate doing supervision duty in the cafe at lunch. Now it is the preferred duty as the cafe is one of the quietest places in the school, since students no longer talk to each other, flirt, or joke around as we might once have; they are all on phones. I will go out on a limb and suggest that these teens are not all researching flowers that they have recently discovered, or some similarly enriching interest. Instead they fill the one part of the day where they might unwind and de-stress, with negative social media messages, advertising, and prank videos.

Even the "play" part of their smartphone experience fails to make them human: it's a mostly repetitive and anonymous experience puntuated by occasioanl racism, sexist comments, and plenty of blood and gore. I'm not anti-technolgy or anti-Internet (both can be positive), nor do I think that a bit of mindless downtime is a problem. I do feel, however that in your usual enthusiasm to promote childhood independence and autonomy that you have really missed how utterly helpless most children (and adults) are in resisting the worst aspects of smartphones.

Thanks, and keep up the great posts!

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Taylor M.'s avatar

Again, I appreciate your writing about this, since respect you and disagree with you on this. There are a couple of issues I see here: (1) you seem to assume that because you use your smartphone in productive ways that kids are naturally going to do the same thing and (2) you say the report "directly tests the question: Are smartphones good for kids or bad for them?", but it does nothing of the sort. It surveys them about smartphones and surprise! surprise! they respond as if they like them and want to keep them.

Regarding (1): I think having come to phones late in a good life has made it so your personal approach to them is very different than young kids. So much so that it is a misleading indicator of their value to children. If kids used them as you do, they would travel farther away from home and they would be smarter than previous generations. I don't think that's the case. The data I have seen indicates the exact opposite. Fewer kids out exploring, test scores dropping. Colleges report kids want to major in English without having read any books before college!

Regarding (2): This one is tough. Asking kids about their phone use is essential, but I'm never sure how much confidence I can put in their self-reports. But here the whole report is framed as what kids with smartphones say vs. what kids without smartphones say. Most of these kids recently got their phones. They don't know what childhood was like without phones. They don't know what they're missing. It would an incredible sign of maturity for a kid to say at 11 years old,"Gee Mister Researcher, I sure love watching 3 hours of YouTube every day after school, but some times when I stare up at the ceiling in the dark of night, I wonder if my time would be better spent reading a book, going over to Jimmy's house to see what he's up to, or maybe getting a paper route or bagging groceries."

As a question for you: the report indicates that for 11-13 year-olds who report Netflix as their most used app, their average estimated usage of Netflix alone PER DAY was 4.0 hours! With all your wisdom and experience, do you think you could beneficially watch four hours of Netflix a day?

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